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I've been thinking about moving to Vancouver, recently.
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Isn't this pretty much asking on which part of the US Border you wanna live?
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Isn't this pretty much asking on which part of the US Border you wanna live?
@vasipi4946 No. No it definitely is not.
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Alert, NU. It's quiet, not many people to bother you, cute wildlife. Who wouldn't move there?

Also, St. John's, NL, so you can chill with the Newfoundlands.
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It really depends on your lifestyle and the cost of living you can handle. But if you're talking about Vancouver I suppose cost of living isn't an issue. Personally, I'd love to say Montreal but I am extremely biased.
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Alert, NU. It's quiet, not many people to bother you, cute wildlife. Who wouldn't move there?

Also, St. John's, NL, so you can chill with the Newfoundlands.
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Alert, NU. It's quiet, not many people to bother you, cute wildlife. Who wouldn't move there?
That's not a city though; it's a military base.
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@fleurbleue At least Alert isn't constantly under construction like Montreal 💀
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@fleurbleue At least Alert isn't constantly under construction like Montreal 💀
@SaiteiDaOrette Makes sense, all cities are constantly under construction and Alert isn't one.
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@SaiteiDaOrette Makes sense, all cities are constantly under construction and Alert isn't one.
@fleurbleue Yeah, keep telling them.
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I recommend smaller French-speaking cities. Seriously, better speak French. I mean the whole purpose of living in America's Hat is to live a quiet life.
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I recommend smaller French-speaking cities. Seriously, better speak French. I mean the whole purpose of living in America's Hat is to live a quiet life.
@MalchikRepaid America's hat does provide the best quality-of-life standards.
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As someone who's lived there for nearly my entire life, get ready to have your wallet empty lol everything's more expensive than it should be :(
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As someone who's lived there for nearly my entire life, get ready to have your wallet empty lol everything's more expensive than it should be :(
@xtsukimi Definitely the biggest downside to living in Vancouver. Why is it so expensive? lol.
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@xtsukimi Definitely the biggest downside to living in Vancouver. Why is it so expensive? lol.
@Rally- I know it's prolly a silly reason, but the weather is insanely good lol
Also, it's because the government keeps raising the minimum wage to keep up with inflation but in reality it's making everything more expensive
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Manitoba is fairly decent in terms of actually being able to afford things like a nice apartment unlike Vancouver but the weather is terrible lol it's snowing 24/7 lol
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Never been there so far, but cities near mountains are usually a great choice, so Calgary
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Zarutaku said:
but cities near mountains are usually a great choice


Some interests in mountains? Seems that you live in a certain region within the European Plain. And a huge part of America's Hat is plain.
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but cities near mountains are usually a great choice


Some interests in mountains? Seems that you live in a certain region within the European Plain. And a huge part of America's Hat is plain.
@MalchikRepaid I live at the border of the Alps.
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@MalchikRepaid I live at the border of the Alps.


Hmmm.... I think you'll definitely appreciate Lake Louise with all its wonders.
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@MalchikRepaid I live at the border of the Alps.


Hmmm.... I think you'll definitely appreciate Lake Louise with all its wonders.
@MalchikRepaid Good idea, but probably too expensive to live there.
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@MalchikRepaid Good idea, but probably too expensive to live there.


That's a good point. That being said, perhaps living near a natural scenery is not a bad idea. Like, my current city is right next to a national park.
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If you want peace I recommend Banff,if you want history Ottawa,if you want money Montreal,Toronto or Vancouver. Mont Tremblant for ski. If you want violence as daily occurrence Winnipeg.
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If you want violence as daily occurrence Winnipeg.


I thought that was Regina. Huh, so it's Winnipeg.
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As far as I have heard, you generally do not want to live in Canada.
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As far as I have heard, you generally do not want to live in Canada.


This is the reason I left and settle in South Korea. I'm bringing my sister to live with me before the end of April as expected. She already works distantly for a tiny South Korean video game company as a coder in C++, C#, and Python. (Translating her resume into Korean was a real b*tch.) And starting this year, I heard that my father's friend is eager to help some of my French-Canadian side of the family to relocate to Malaysia with full-time professional jobs guranteed and a possible investment opportunity. This was my father's 4 months of negotiation to save his many younger in-laws in a financial sense.

But what you said is right. I'm sorry to say, but the country that is situated north of America is economically doomed.
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As far as I have heard, you generally do not want to live in Canada.
@JaniSIr Why should I not want to live in my country? Genuinely asking.
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@JaniSIr Why should I not want to live in my country? Genuinely asking.
@fleurbleue Canada is kind of like a USA lite, with it's car centric infrastructure, except the weather is worse, the government is crazy, "MAID" in healthcare, and the prices of run down houses matching literal European castles.
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@fleurbleue Canada is kind of like a USA lite, with it's car centric infrastructure, except the weather is worse, the government is crazy, "MAID" in healthcare, and the prices of run down houses matching literal European castles.
@JaniSIr the main problem with Canadians is when they say they are northern. I live more north than most Canadians and no one considers Czechs northern.
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@JaniSIr the main problem with Canadians is when they say they are northern. I live more north than most Canadians and no one considers Czechs northern.
@Commit_Crime It's kind of wild to think about how most of Canadians actually live South of the big straight line of the USA/Canada border.
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@fleurbleue Canada is kind of like a USA lite, with it's car centric infrastructure, except the weather is worse, the government is crazy, "MAID" in healthcare, and the prices of run down houses matching literal European castles.
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Canada is kind of like a USA lite
Could somewhat applies to the Prairie provinces. If anyone says Quebec is similar to the States they are either dumb or malicious.

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with it's car centric infrastructure
Canada is a very vast land with very little people, it wouldn't be realistic not to rely on cars, at least between major cities. I don't know everything about every big cities public transport systems but the one we got in Montreal is pretty decent.

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except the weather is worse
Are you talking about winter and snowstorms? That hardly counts as bad weather (if anything that's actually a plus). At least we don't get hurricanes or destructive tornadoes (yet).

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the government is crazy
What does that even mean?

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"MAID" in healthcare
Why should it be considered bad to actually have the choice to die rather than suffer for a long time from a terminal disease?

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and the prices of run down houses matching literal European castles
You're probably talking about Vancouver. You'd probably still get a fancy manor or something in Montreal for that kind of money.
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Canada is kind of like a USA lite
Could somewhat applies to the Prairie provinces. If anyone says Quebec is similar to the States they are either dumb or malicious.

JaniSIr said:
with it's car centric infrastructure
Canada is a very vast land with very little people, it wouldn't be realistic not to rely on cars, at least between major cities. I don't know everything about every big cities public transport systems but the one we got in Montreal is pretty decent.

JaniSIr said:
except the weather is worse
Are you talking about winter and snowstorms? That hardly counts as bad weather (if anything that's actually a plus). At least we don't get hurricanes or destructive tornadoes (yet).

JaniSIr said:
the government is crazy
What does that even mean?

JaniSIr said:
"MAID" in healthcare
Why should it be considered bad to actually have the choice to die rather than suffer for a long time from a terminal disease?

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and the prices of run down houses matching literal European castles
You're probably talking about Vancouver. You'd probably still get a fancy manor or something in Montreal for that kind of money.
@fleurbleue The particularly big issue in the USA is that in the middle of the 20th century they demolished their livable city centers to build high ways, which basically made everything farther away, so you need cars to go fast, but you mostly still commute the same time.
The big issue isn't even necessarily cross country travel, but daily commute. But the former could be solved too with some high speed train, Bejing to Shanghai is like 900+km in 3 hours, so if that's a distance you'd try to travel in the USA by plane, you maybe would have taken off from the airport, because getting through airport security is so bad.

Winter with huge walls of snow specifically. I'll give you the tornado and hurricane issue though.

I basically heard only bad things of the Trudeau government, though apparently that's no longer an issue? I didn't follow the story closely.

Because it lead to a system where hospitals are incentivized to pressure people into it, over curing people.

I watched one economics video, and apparently the whole market is FUBAR thanks to a lack of supply, easy access to excessive amount of debt, and the government making policies to extend the housing bubble as far as possible.
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@fleurbleue The particularly big issue in the USA is that in the middle of the 20th century they demolished their livable city centers to build high ways, which basically made everything farther away, so you need cars to go fast, but you mostly still commute the same time.
The big issue isn't even necessarily cross country travel, but daily commute. But the former could be solved too with some high speed train, Bejing to Shanghai is like 900+km in 3 hours, so if that's a distance you'd try to travel in the USA by plane, you maybe would have taken off from the airport, because getting through airport security is so bad.

Winter with huge walls of snow specifically. I'll give you the tornado and hurricane issue though.

I basically heard only bad things of the Trudeau government, though apparently that's no longer an issue? I didn't follow the story closely.

Because it lead to a system where hospitals are incentivized to pressure people into it, over curing people.

I watched one economics video, and apparently the whole market is FUBAR thanks to a lack of supply, easy access to excessive amount of debt, and the government making policies to extend the housing bubble as far as possible.
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The big issue isn't even necessarily cross country travel, but daily commute. But the former could be solved too with some high speed train, Bejing to Shanghai is like 900+km in 3 hours, so if that's a distance you'd try to travel in the USA by plane, you maybe would have taken off from the airport, because getting through airport security is so bad.
I would love high-speed trains. They've been talking about putting one between Ottawa and Quebec City for years now, but it's still nothing but talk.

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I basically heard only bad things of the Trudeau government, though apparently that's no longer an issue? I didn't follow the story closely.
He resigned as leader of the Liberal Party a while ago and was replaced yesterday after the Liberal leadership race concluded. The new Liberal Party leader is de facto the new Prime Minister, but he can't sit in the House of Commons since he wasn't elected. Elections should be announced really soon, probably next week.

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Because it lead to a system where hospitals are incentivized to pressure people into it, over curing people.
A doctor can bring up MAiD to a patient but isn't allowed to try to persuade anyone, and would definitely be struck off the roll if you filed a complaint. Will some still do it? Of course, there are bound to be unethical people everywhere. But I still prefer it this way, as I have liberty of choice over my own body.

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I watched one economics video, and apparently the whole market is FUBAR thanks to a lack of supply, easy access to excessive amount of debt, and the government making policies to extend the housing bubble as far as possible.
I do know that the housing problem has a lot to do with immigration. They accept more people than we can sustain, and too many "foreign students" aren't here to study at all; they just start living and working here without any shame. But the situation is still better a little better in Quebec since a lot of foreigners are put off by the French language.
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A doctor can bring up MAiD to a patient but isn't allowed to try to persuade anyone, and would definitely be struck off the roll if you filed a complaint. Will some still do it? Of course, there are bound to be unethical people everywhere. But I still prefer it this way, as I have liberty of choice over my own body.

Even at it's most charitable I strongly disagree, for it is a violation of the Hippocratic oath, and I do believe that it's morally right to stop people from harming themselves.
But since the clause of "terminal illness" has been expanded it's just outright vile.
Doctors aren't saints, they live off of money too, and bad monetary incentives have always been an issue.
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Rally- said:
I've been thinking about moving to Vancouver, recently.
Don't, unless you have a lot of money and you're willing to spend it. It's the least realistic city to live in.

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I live more north than most Canadians and no one considers Czechs northern.
I think it's Americans who call Canadians "northern" but it's all relative anyway, Europe designated you the West Slavs because there's Slavs more South than you!

fleurbleue said:
Could somewhat applies to the Prairie provinces. If anyone says Quebec is similar to the States they are either dumb or malicious.
None of the provinces except the prairie provinces even remotely resemble the states, and Canadian Conservatives are not U.S. Conservatives.

JaniSIr said:
Winter with huge walls of snow specifically.
The entire country isn't like that. Some areas get a lot less snow, and the west coast gets next to none. Maybe it's because I'm Eastern European, but as far as extreme weather goes, I'd prefer the snow over blistering heat, humidity, hurricanes and being on fire. Canada has wildfires too, but that degree of it is horrifying.

There are a lot of problems in Canada, like there are in any country, but it's easy to be doom and gloom about the problems of the last decade via watching a YouTube video about it. It's far easy to cover the negative than the positive.

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they made some really good sci-fi tv-series in Vancouver. Is that city part of the French Canada?
The Expanse?! Also, Canadians are all taught to speak French to varying degrees, but French Canada is Quebec and Vancouver is in British Columbia.




Another hero? Oh, please!
You're a god-damn philistine.

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There are a lot of problems in Canada, like there are in any country, but it's easy to be doom and gloom about the problems of the last decade via watching a YouTube video about it. It's far easy to cover the negative than the positive.

There is some truth to that, but even accounting for that the world has kind of gone crazy in the last 10 years?
Or it went crazy partially because of social media spreading Doom and gloom?
I'll leave deciding that an intellectual exercise to the reader.
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Also, I got a question for Canadians! Why aren't you divided into states like the US since you seem to be way more different from region to region than a lot of the USA states are?
Have you ever looked at a map of Canada?
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A doctor can bring up MAiD to a patient but isn't allowed to try to persuade anyone, and would definitely be struck off the roll if you filed a complaint. Will some still do it? Of course, there are bound to be unethical people everywhere. But I still prefer it this way, as I have liberty of choice over my own body.

Even at it's most charitable I strongly disagree, for it is a violation of the Hippocratic oath, and I do believe that it's morally right to stop people from harming themselves.
But since the clause of "terminal illness" has been expanded it's just outright vile.
Doctors aren't saints, they live off of money too, and bad monetary incentives have always been an issue.
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I strongly disagree, for it is a violation of the Hippocratic oath
Does that mean you're against abortion too?

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But since the clause of "terminal illness" has been expanded it's just outright vile.
What do you find vile about it? Here are the actual requirements if that can help.

To be eligible for medical assistance in dying, you must meet ALL the following criteria. You must:

Be eligible for health services funded by a province or territory, or the federal government
You may also be eligible if you meet your province or territory's minimum period of residence or waiting period.
Be at least 18 years old and mentally competent
This means being capable of making health care decisions for yourself.
Have a grievous and irremediable medical condition
Make a voluntary request for medical assistance in dying
The request cannot be the result of outside pressure or influence.
Give informed consent to receive medical assistance in dying

To be considered as having a grievous and irremediable medical condition, you must meet ALL of the following criteria. You must:

Have a serious illness, disease or disability
Be in an advanced state of decline that cannot be reversed
Experience unbearable physical or mental suffering from your illness, disease, disability or state of decline that cannot be relieved under conditions that you consider acceptable

You do not need to have a fatal or terminal condition to be eligible for medical assistance in dying.

If your only medical condition is a mental illness, you are not eligible for medical assistance.
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I had only been to Vancouver, and I found it pretty cool short stay - kinda more eco version of Seattle (but Seattle offers more cash and vibe).

And from what I know about French regions, I wouldn't bother: if you want to live poor and speak French, there is France, haha.
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I've heard Vancouver is actually really nice, though I can't speak from experience.
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It has become one of those series where I don't want to rush through it since I know I'm gonna miss it too much once I've watched everything lol
You absolutely will, the first few seasons are the best TV sci-fi I've ever seen. I miss it all the time!

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Ohh okay so it's being taught as the primary second language the same way that English would be taught to someone in Germany or Spain?
More or less, except a lot of Canadians don't keep using it and ultimately can't speak a word of it.




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You're a god-damn philistine.

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JaniSIr said:
it is a violation of the Hippocratic oath

That oath is outdated, modern doctors pledge to the declaration of Geneva.

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I do believe that it's morally right to stop people from harming themselves

So it's morally right to take away someone's cig or hipflask, and throw it away?
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I've been thinking about moving to Vancouver, recently.
Don't, unless you have a lot of money and you're willing to spend it. It's the least realistic city to live in.

Commit_Crime said:
I live more north than most Canadians and no one considers Czechs northern.
I think it's Americans who call Canadians "northern" but it's all relative anyway, Europe designated you the West Slavs because there's Slavs more South than you!

fleurbleue said:
Could somewhat applies to the Prairie provinces. If anyone says Quebec is similar to the States they are either dumb or malicious.
None of the provinces except the prairie provinces even remotely resemble the states, and Canadian Conservatives are not U.S. Conservatives.

JaniSIr said:
Winter with huge walls of snow specifically.
The entire country isn't like that. Some areas get a lot less snow, and the west coast gets next to none. Maybe it's because I'm Eastern European, but as far as extreme weather goes, I'd prefer the snow over blistering heat, humidity, hurricanes and being on fire. Canada has wildfires too, but that degree of it is horrifying.

There are a lot of problems in Canada, like there are in any country, but it's easy to be doom and gloom about the problems of the last decade via watching a YouTube video about it. It's far easy to cover the negative than the positive.

NS2D said:
they made some really good sci-fi tv-series in Vancouver. Is that city part of the French Canada?
The Expanse?! Also, Canadians are all taught to speak French to varying degrees, but French Canada is Quebec and Vancouver is in British Columbia.
@CC West Slavs make sense but in that case, Canadians should be North North Americans
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Does that mean you're against abortion too?

Arguably most abortions could be avoided, if the people involved weren't reckless.
And that quite frankly sounds like a very traumatic procedure that as a woman I'd avoid to the best of my abilities.

fleurbleue said:
What do you find vile about it? Here are the actual requirements if that can help.

I've seen people talk about their experiences with it, it's pretty disturbing.

Zarutaku said:
That oath is outdated, modern doctors pledge to the declaration of Geneva

Looks similar enough at first glance...
I was hoping to paste a clip from Kelly's heroes saying "We are not in Geneva", but I can't find it.
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So it's morally right to take away someone's cig or hipflask, and throw it away?

That would be an overreaction, and arguably would qualify as assault, but their friends and family should try to get them to lead a healthier life.
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I'm not a big city guy, but Vancouver is nice. If you don't need to live right in the city, try the surrounding towns - will save you quite a bit.

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